How To Adopt an Ageless Style and Update Your Leadership Look with Julie Hyne

Julie Hyne is a Certified and highly experienced Image Professional who has helped senior executive women differentiate their authentic brand style and presence for over 20 years.

Her Style for Life program and strategies have helped women build their confidence, executive presence, gain votes, promotions, and increase their earning capacity.

Julie's Journey into Image Consulting

• Julie shares her background, starting in the corporate world and transitioning into image consulting.
• She became an image consultant after a series of life changes, including becoming a single mother.
• Julie's first significant experience was speaking at her old girls' school on professional readiness.
• She trained with the Australian Image Company and became accredited with the Association of Image Consultants International.

The Impact of Personal Style on Aging

• Dianne and Julie discuss how personal style impacts a woman's perception of aging.
• Julie explains that women often neglect their personal style until they feel it no longer suits them.
• She emphasizes the importance of aligning personal style with one's current life stage and circumstances.
• Julie uses the term "visible relevance" to describe the need for women to feel relevant and seen in their personal style.

Common Misconceptions About Fashion and Aging

• Julie addresses common misconceptions, such as the fear of looking "mutton dressed as lamb."
• Women often hold back from changing their style due to fear of judgment from others.
• Julie encourages women to dress in a way that makes them feel good, regardless of age-specific retail outlets.
• She advises regular bra fittings and investing in quality underwear to enhance one's style.

Balancing Comfort and Style

• Dianne and Julie discuss the balance between comfort and style, especially as women age.
• Julie shares her personal experience of transitioning from high heels to flats due to arthritis.
• She suggests adjusting styles to accommodate changes in body shape and comfort.
• Julie emphasizes the importance of highlighting the best parts of one's body and minimizing areas of concern.

Building a Sustainable Wardrobe

• Julie advises clients to invest in quality rather than quantity to build a sustainable wardrobe.
• She suggests focusing on essential pieces and accessories that can extend the wardrobe's lifespan.
• Julie emphasizes the importance of maintaining and updating a wardrobe gradually.
• She encourages clients to love their clothes and only keep items that truly flatter them.

Accessories and Their Importance

• Julie highlights the role of accessories in enhancing personal style.
• She advises clients to invest in a few key accessories, such as scarves, earrings, and handbags.
• Accessories can significantly change the look of an outfit without requiring a complete wardrobe overhaul.
• Julie emphasizes the importance of quality and investment in accessories to extend their lifespan.

You can find Julie here:
This is a link to a style challenge which is a 5 day mini course that will take women through the basics of redefining their own style and wardrobe.https://m2m.juliehyne.com/

Julies professional website
https://juliehyneimagestylist.com.au

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Transcript

Unknown: 0:20

Dianne, hello, listeners and my special tribe,

Dianne Flemington: 0:26

welcome to the leadership longevity podcast. I'm your host. Dianne Flemington, hello and welcome to the leadership longevity Podcast. Today, I want to introduce you to Julie hein. I met Julie on LinkedIn. I saw her post something about image and style, and there was a through line in me that felt that reaching out to her could support a lot of my executive leaders in terms of our conversations that we have around feeling great inside those leadership roles and conversations. And there's a really true aspect about that. They always say that, in order to be their role, fulfill in the role, then you need to dress the part. And since covid, there's been some you know, what's our uniform? How do we exude executive presence when so much of our work is hybrid and online. But all that aside, I really want you to hear what Julie Hine has to talk about her just to talk into a bit about what her background and her specialty is. She's titled as a certified image professional and executive style mentor. And Julie Hein is certified and highly experienced image professional who has helped senior executive leaders, you know, differentiate their authentic brand style and presence for over 20 years, her style for life, program and strategies have helped women build their confidence. Executive presidents help them gain votes, promotions and increase their earning capacity. So especially now, as business progress into changing landscapes, an attractive appearance with appropriate grooming and personal style plays a significant role in the success of women in the workplace. I would have to agree, Julie works exclusively with senior executive women who hold key positions of influence in Australia to convey more credibility, authenticity and be perceived as even more intelligent and trustworthy. That results in more influence, impact and success. I feel very grateful to have her say yes to be part of a guest, to be a guest on the podcast today. Julie believes that every woman deserves opportunity to look, feel and be beautiful inside and out, and be able to achieve that daily without stress, so they can focus on the job at hand. Love it. So without any further ado, I'd like to introduce you to Julie Hein, okay, tribe, here she is, Julie, oh my gosh, like I, I can't even I'm really containing myself. You and I had a little pre conversation, but I'm super excited to have you as part of this program. I think the reason why, for myself, a little selfishly, for sure, and the tribe, are leaders that I've worked with, whether it's coaching or mentoring or maybe just brainstorming. And so many times there's this conversation about image that comes up. So I don't pose myself to be an expert. I'm so glad you are here as one, and my first invite for you is, I'm dying to know what's the story. How did you get into this? How did you become a professional

Unknown: 3:37

image consultant? Well, why? Bet when? Because, you know, I've been doing this for way over 20 years, who would have known what image consulting was? Had no idea what it was, and I had been working in the corporate world. Started off in the airline industry, hospitalities, went into the corporate world and was working at, you know, fairly responsible sales role, and then felt pregnant, started a family. And, you know, to be able to do something with my very entrepreneurial creative mind, I had to try and find something, and it sort of coincided with a marriage breakup as well. So I was all of a sudden, became a single mum with two little children. And I thought, well, what can I do? And I was invited in to speak to my to the girls school I went to on professional readiness. And that was probably a turning point for me, one of my turning points, because I actually really enjoyed that. I enjoyed being able to share my experiences with girls younger than I was, who were just starting out on that journey. Because it's, it's really hard for them to decide. Well, you know, where am I going to go? How am I meant to behave? Am I supposed to do? And that one School Talk led to another school talk led to another school talk. And I thought really interested in this, what you know? What is it? What can I do? And so I started just Googling, and I came across image consulting. I thought, never heard so there were two trainers in Melbourne at the time. So I did what every good salesperson would do. I went off and I interviewed both of them and decided to go down the path I did with the Australian image company at the time, trained under a lady called Anne rankton, who used to be a palliative care nurse, and she went into Image Consulting, and so I really haven't looked back. I became accredited with the Association of image consultants international at very early and went through the accreditation process. We look upon Image Consulting worldwide as a profession. It's not a hobby, it's not a it's not a personal shopping gig. It is actually a profession whereby we look at image as as a whole, from the interior through to the exterior and also psychologically as well. And there's a lot of facets to Image Consulting. It really resonated with me, particularly with my corporate background, because you know, any you know, if you look at a HR person, how many different things they have to deal with, with an individual, and we're the same, we can get called in to do all sorts of different things in organizations, from suggesting what people should wear, putting dress codes together, to dealing with hygiene issues, you know, all sorts of things we get called in to talk about, but that's, that was how I got into it. And then I had lots of different things that happened along the way. I purchased a beauty salon at one point in my career, and I leveraged beauty with image consulting, and that was really good, but unfortunately, that went through the GFC period. Bear in mind, I was still a single mum at this stage, so I was juggling all sorts of things, and so eventually sold that and went back to working totally with image consulting, and it just developed for me to be working with women who were the similar age bracket to me, but they had gone down their journey of, you know, C suite executives, board roles, you know, high level entrepreneurship, you know, really needing to step out into the spotlight and look Amazing. And I had gone down this other path, so somehow it fitted really well, and so that's where I'm at at today.

Dianne Flemington: 7:50

That's brilliant. That's so brilliant. The that even folds into the conversation which the brand that you and I met under was a healthy aging coach, which is now succeeded by the leadership longevity, which is still part of aging well as a leader, right being and with an excellent sense of beingness around it. It's not just status quo. We're looking to thrive and excel in our lives. So someone like you attracts us because you've got some tips and tricks, but I'm curious, since you've met such a plethora of women and helped and support them, how do you how do you think personal style impacts a woman's perception of aging

Unknown: 8:37

hugely, hugely, because, and you know, often women don't even think about what their personal style is until they get to a point in their life where they think they look in the mirror and they think don't really like how to see. You know, it's like this. You have this instant transformation overnight, which is not a good one. It's not the one we want to see. All of a sudden they start to see gray hairs. They start to see lines and wrinkles on their face. They start to see staying in gels. They start and they look at their clothes, and they look at their body shape, and they think, why haven't I noticed this happening for now? And so a style of that they may have adopted in their younger years they have, they have kept in place to this point where, all of a sudden, it hasn't kept up with where they're at in their life. And then at least could have changed. They might be in totally different circumstances, and suddenly it's just not cutting it for them anymore. It's not them, you know, it's not really inspiring them. So it's a case of gosh, you know, well, have I got personal style? Have I got because I always align a personal style is like having your own personal brand, you know, it's what people learn to recognize you for. It's, it's, it's your reputation, it's what people can. Of learn to know, like and trust you very easily with because it's predictable. You know, it's so if they feel I don't have a style anymore, what? What, who am I? What, how am I meant to dress? What am I meant to do? And so then that they start to realize I'm actually, I'm not the person I was five years ago. It's not working for me anymore. So I don't want to look old. I don't want to look, you know, like I'm it's a word I'm looking for. There's a word a lot of women have used where they just hired

Dianne Flemington: 10:39

Warren

Unknown: 10:43

irrelevant is the word visible relevant anymore, which is just like that, you know. So when they start to feel like that, they know they're in this aging process, but it's time to revamp their personal style. It's time to really reassess who they are as a person, and you know, where they're going in life, and how they want the world to view them as well, as how they want to see themselves as well. Because sometimes these things very, very subliminal. They're very subtle, and they can just get into this zone. They might have been sensing it for a while, but then it gets to a point where they say, You know what, I need to do something about this. It's depressing me. You know, it's not doing me any favors whatsoever.

Dianne Flemington: 11:38

Yeah, as you're talking there's like, of course, listening to people, you join your own threads of connection and experience. But I'm also thinking of others that I've spoken or work to support through in mindsets around because i i make up that there's some complexity that you're going to run up against, which is no long term body image. And yet, when women are in these powerful positions, there's so much that can be part of what we call the shadow or dark side, right? That, how do we integrate that? And this feels like a really wonderful way to start pulling that forward and in consideration, like a strong, compassionate consideration of, you know, what do we want to look well, how do we want to see ourselves now? Or how do we want to be seen which is a very intentional and powerful question. So I'm curious, what are some common misconceptions around fashion and styling as it relates to aging?

Unknown: 12:37

Probably one of the oldest ones, which we're all familiar with is, you know, don't want to look like mutton dressed up as land.

Dianne Flemington: 12:45

That's an Australian saying, or maybe it's a UK or British saying too. But yes, okay,

Unknown: 12:52

they don't want, they want to do it, but they don't want people to judge them badly for it. And often, women will hold back and not move forward on changing things about their look, because of what their best friend might say, or because of what, you know, their husband might say, or because of what's instead of doing it for themselves, you know, they're fearful that changing something will upset the status quo, and it's not going to work in their favor. But, yeah, that's probably the most common thing. Or as they're aging, you know, they think that, oh, they have to dress a certain way, they have to go to a certain type of retail outlet, because that's where my mum used to go when she'd gone to this certain age. And I think it's important for women to understand that. You know that's all gone. Now, it really has gone. You You are a woman, and yes, you're the age you're at, but it doesn't mean you have to be channeled down a certain path, to shop at a certain store, to dress in a certain way, to have your skirt length. You know, you know, longer than what you'd really like to have it if you've got amazing legs, you know. But there are a few things that I do encourage women to do once they get to a certain age, you know, like, make sure you have a regular bra fitting, for example. And you know, it really invest in fabulous underwear and foundation garments, because that's going to help everything else you know along the way. So, yeah, there's a lot of misconceptions still about aging. And you know, do you look your age? How do I look younger? You know, what do people think? Yeah, yeah.

Dianne Flemington: 14:40

Do you do you have maybe you're not able to share with me, I make up that there's some breaking down, some mental barriers for you before you actually get into the fun style creation mode. Does that feel true for your work and who you help? Yes, yes,

Unknown: 14:58

totally. And it's. Thing a woman often has to go through, and she has to give herself permission to be vulnerable, whatever that means to her. It could be letting go of an experience that she had with someone that could go back to when they were a teenager. Even, you know, there's a lot of emotion involved in a woman going through a transformation process. You know, I've had women break down in tears in, you know, dressing rooms in stores, because all of a sudden they're seeing themselves as the person they really love to be, but they were never able to achieve that themselves. It's quite it's quite humbling when you see that,

Dianne Flemington: 15:47

yeah, I think the close six experience, as you're saying, that shows up for me is I had a couple of great friends in my 30s, early 40s, that, literally, I hate shopping, would just throw me into a change room and go, okay, and throw a bunch of things at me, make me walk out. Yay, nay, yay, nay. And I'd be like, whether I felt good in it or not. I'm like, I just trusted them and went on with it.

Unknown: 16:10

And what gives them, you know, what gives them the the right to be able to tell you what looks good and what doesn't look good? What training have they had, you know, to be able, yeah, that's fabulous style on you. Dianne, oh, that's, that's a brilliant color on you. People that haven't had the training into us to assess shape, design lines, proportion fit color, you know? Because, you know, color is a whole subject on its own, and often misguide women to invest in things that they probably at the time they they know intrinsically. I just don't feel really comfortable in this. I'm not sure about this, but they're encouraged to go ahead with the purchase anyway, and they're the things that end up hanging in their wardrobe with guilty tags on them. And, you know, push to the the end of the wardrobe and and they're just embarrassed to bring them out and try them because, you know, they've made a mistake, and sometimes it can be a really expensive mistake, which gives this whole subject, you know, a really, you know, they feel bad about it. So it's they're reluctant to try it again, so they stick to the same habits that they've always been in and they've always done because that makes them feel safe, and that's not healthy. You know,

Dianne Flemington: 17:31

it wasn't healthy

Unknown: 17:32

habits. That's just not healthy at all. You

Dianne Flemington: 17:36

mentioned something in there that I'm getting extra curious about which is, how important is it, you know, comfort versus style, especially as we age and, you know, today, can we achieve both? Or is there like, well, you kind of have to make a choice in order to look a certain way. No,

Unknown: 17:55

you can definitely achieve both. Usually look. It can be an adjustment of certain things. The first thing that comes to mind for a lot of women is heels versus lower heels. I was in that bracket too. I used to always wear my six inch high heels when I was working in town. And I, you know, made me feel 10 feet full. And then, you know, bit of arthritis came in, and then all of a sudden it hurt. It really hurt, and it hurt my back as well to be on heels for a long time. So gradually I had to get used to the idea that, you know what flats from my friend, and so I had to adjust the way I dress to be able to accommodate a lower heel shoe. And in fact, I have a lot of my clients who are doing exactly the same thing. They're moving across from wearing skirts and stockings and heels to browsers and lovely flat shoes, you know, for when they're even traveling into stage, jackets become a slightly different style, more relaxed trousers can be more easy fit, where you're not seeing elasticized bands, you know, trouser, but they at the back and you've got something over the top, which means you don't see it, but you're seeing a fabulous silhouette And a fabulous style, you know, using beautiful fabrics that are breathable and don't cling to your body, because, let's face it, Diane, our body shapes change as we get older, and we don't always like them, and we don't like wearing clothes that highlight our figure floors. So we look for styles and design lines that actually, you know, really highlight the best bits about you. And there was one of the things I work with on my clients, is, okay, what is it that you love about yourself? And let's really amplify that, and let's minimize all this other stuff which is causing you grief every time you step in front. Yeah, right, yes.

Dianne Flemington: 20:03

One of the conversations that are coming to mind as you're talking again with leaders is they'll especially when we you and I spoke a few months ago, and I've been kind of just seeding leaders in the idea of, have you ever considered and in that they're like, Well, I'm always in this weight loss mode, so I never really feel like I want to invest in that yet, because it feels like I want to wait till I look my best, and I feel like that's going against what you can actually offer them to help them even further in their weight loss. But you know, you tell me,

Unknown: 20:39

I hang it all the time. You know, first it was one of the first barriers they put up to not doing anything, is, I'll do it when I lose weight. Really. How long do you think it's going to take you to lose weight? How long have you been trying to lose weight? I've been trying to, you know, shed this. And I said, okay, alright. So how's that working out for you in terms of where you want to go and what you want to achieve. Well, it's not and what's your wardrobe look like at the moment? Well, it's full of fat cloths. And I said, Okay, how would you like to wear something that really celebrates your shape as you are now makes you actually look slimmer, potentially, and gives you so much confidence that you can walk into any boardroom and own your space. You can do that. I said, Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, because brilliant. Let's go this thing that she's too fat or too you know, she's not the size she used to be. When you can let go of that and you can help someone who knows what they're doing to put things on you that are actually going to give you more shape and make you look slimmer and taller. Then you know, this is where this whole transformation takes place. And you know what happens psychologically, they actually start to lose weight because their minds shifted from a toxic negative, you know, I'm fat. I can't wear this stuff work for me, etc, etc. I have to stay in these sorts of clothes to, oh, my God. I didn't realize I could do that. And all of a sudden, all this energy, and, you know, goes on and, you know, they actually start to drop weight. Yeah, that's

Dianne Flemington: 22:29

brilliant. It's that beautiful momentum, right? You're helping them see themselves in that future self that they wanted. And that just promotes those positive vibes, which allows for natural weight loss, or, you know, natural decision making to not

Unknown: 22:45

all the right reasons, yeah, yeah. And they want to, not want to have that extra latte, or whatever it is that's been, you know, holding them back saying, You know what, I don't need that anymore. I want to go this. And, yeah, so it's quite, yeah,

Dianne Flemington: 23:01

that's great. I think it's a, you know, just kind of summarizing all the 1000s of leadership conversations I've had that involve that. This is where I'd start. You know, when I'm speaking with them, this is the referral point for me to you, because you're going to actually assist them in that struggle of weight or their transformation that they're up to, I really feel like you'd be a really great partner through that journey, as well as them looking in the mirror, going, oh man, yeah,

Unknown: 23:31

self acceptance first and foremost. You know, for them to be able to look realistically at themselves, and I do that with them, to say, like this is what we're working with, we have to acknowledge that, you know, how does that make you feel? So we can work through all of that. But they say, Okay, this is what we have to do to be able to, you know, sort of do this, do that, whatever. And then they get their style blueprint, which then highlights, what are the fabulous styles that we really need to be looking for. And then we through color analysis. It's about these are the colors, and where do we place colors on your body so that it makes you look slimmer or taller or whatever we have to do minimize things, and that's where the magic all starts to happen. And then we can work on things like makeup and grooming and change of hairstyle and accessorizing and all of those wonderful, fun things.

Dianne Flemington: 24:26

I like that there's a progression here.

Unknown: 24:29

But he's definitely not an overnight. It's definitely not an overnight. It's it's a little bit by little bit by little bit, because it's going to

Dianne Flemington: 24:38

feel like the elephant, you know, we talk about starting with small bites of the elephant, rather than trying to consume the whole elephant, and you support them, and just kind of gradually moving through this to an end product. What do you call the end result? What is there? Do you have a terminology for that? Is there ever an end result? Yeah.

Unknown: 25:00

Not really, because even when, even when we've gone through that whole process, and we've done, you know, wardrobe clean out, we've we've put wonderful things back into their wardrobe help them coordinate different looks through a fabulous little wardrobe app that I use with my clients. And we've done the makeup, we've done, sometimes, hairstyle and color change, and so we have this new vision of loveliness there for her to present to the world. And then it's a case of maintenance and sustainability. So it's keeping that look maintained, adding to that to further refine and enhance and you know her feeling like she's not out there on her own, that she has that support here, that she if she sees something she loves in a window somewhere, you know, she can just check in and say, Hey, just wanted to know. What do you think about this? And then I will ask her, hold on questions.

Dianne Flemington: 26:05

It's actually a maybe a good savings model as well.

Unknown: 26:09

Ah, totally. I have a motto, actually, which I tell all my clients, you have to love it madly and need it badly. When you see a sample, if you can't answer that questions, leave it alone.

Dianne Flemington: 26:24

Got it brilliant? You know, on that note, because we're all going to start off where we start off. And I know you work with a distinguished few meet people who are, you know, in a certain caliber of life already, and that's fantastic. So for us just starting out in the journey, you have a place called mundane to magnificent as and I'll try. I'm going to give you all the links. I'm going to give you all a Julie link. She offers some fabulous resources for everyone to tap into. And this one here I was perusing over and I thought, What a brilliant place to start. But then you just mentioned something about once you get to a level where you've got them, you know the wardrobe, the hair, and they are shopping, and there they can have a sense of knowing even what they might buy a fit for themselves. What would you today, people just starting out, is there like a secret accessory that every woman of style should own that should be in their wardrobe or on them somewhere.

Unknown: 27:27

You mentioned accessories, so I'll go accessory wise. You know what women lack a lot of are accessories. So even if you only had half a dozen things in your wardrobe and they're block colors, you can change the look of that so many times by the accessories that you wear. So whether it's, you know, a couple of really good silk scarves in lovely patterns that are in your colors, of course, you know, earrings, necklaces, shoes, handbags, you know, those are the things. And I always say women should invest 30% of a wardrobe budget on accessories, because they're the things that can take you from one seat. You can have like a catch a wardrobe, as I said, with just a few things in it, but you can update your wardrobe consecutively every season by just adding a new accessory item. And that's really the key to good style. It is knowing what to invest in that's going to help you extend your wardrobe, rather than going out and buying a whole new wardrobe every season, which a lot of women do, which leads them to be in that situation where they have way too many clothes, clothes you know, that actually can take up, you know, two different bedroom wood. And how can you ever wear all of those? You know, you can't, and it's a waste of money, waste of resources, and they just end up getting so confused and so frustrated. So,

Dianne Flemington: 28:58

wow, you opened up a couple of access points there, because you're now speaking into saving money in the long run, because you know acutely what what you can have, and how to build it out without too much expense. You've also spoken into sustainability for those women who care about the environment, or even men that they're not having to buy this bulk amount of clothing, you know, cheap price to replace their wardrobe every year, and all that goes to landfill at the end of its life. So there's there's that as well. Just you just keep raising the amplification of reasons why the tribe should be connecting with someone like you, an image consultant.

Unknown: 29:45

Well, look, it's very easy. We get tempted by, you know, online shopping. You know, coming up to Black Friday. You know, sales soon, and so the promotions are coming out very, very fast. You know, if you're online. And and all of these discount, savings, etc. But you know, women do, they'll go in and they'll they'll shop, and they'll shop for silly reasons, and they'll bring them in. Some will return them. Some won't return them. It can't be bothered but you know, you're right. You are just adding to landfill. Fashion is, I think, the worst industry to add to landfill. And it just pains me every time I go into a large shopping mall, in some of these really big stores, like H M, you know, which are just filled with stuff, you know. And it's I understand this. Everyone has a budget, and you can dress very inexpensively. I put wardrobes together for some women for $500 you know, versus other women that might spend, you know,$15,000 or more. You know, you've got that piece of string. And how long is it? However, I think you still have to be conscious about how much you you actually put into your wardrobe. How much do you really need? You know, what's it for? What's your lifestyle like? What events do you go to? What's your social life like? You know, what clothes do you need to be able to service all those areas of your life and have things that are going to transcend across all of those so that you've got a really good working wardrobe, and fill it with quality, you know, not quantity. It will get you a much larger return on your investment, and you'll enjoy wearing them because, you know, everyone loves to put on something that's a quality garment in a quality fabric. Yes,

Dianne Flemington: 31:40

if it feels nice, amazing. Yes, I'm a texture shopper myself. It has to feel good first, above anything else.

Unknown: 31:50

You know, great in texture. And other women need to wear things that are more finely woven and have a different surface to them and and that's all part of color analysis. All that comes into color analysis and the sort of personality you are, and because we you have a personality style as well, and that's all uncovered, you know, in this whole process that we work through,

Dianne Flemington: 32:13

that's brilliant, wow, you offer a buffer of value in what you're doing. So I've mentioned the mundane to magnificent training like that, Intro to where people are at. But is there other avenues that you want to mention that people could drop in and connect with you? No,

Unknown: 32:35

I have lots of free things that I put out from time to time on LinkedIn. So if they, you know, connect with me on LinkedIn, they will go through measures of getting, you know, free ebooks and things like that. There's video series, if you know, I've done so much content over the years I've been working that, yeah, it's too much. Really, don't know where it's done, yeah,

Dianne Flemington: 33:01

to your point, tribe, I just want to pull forward something that when I was being around Julie hive website, she has a wonderful series on executive presence, that I might be a really great place to start to hear her interview some of the you know, top level CEO and founders of organizations, and listen to Some of their story and what style has impacted them and what impacts it's had positively on their business or professional life. I thought a few of those were really great. I mean, I didn't get a chance to listen to them all, but the ones that I listened to were really valuable for me even. So, thank you for taking the time to put those up. This has been wonderful. I'm definitely going to post the links to the mundane, to magnificent and to your website so they can have a snoop around themselves and see where to find you. I'll definitely put your LinkedIn as well. If that's a thumbs up for you, I'll give them access to that before we jump into the piracy questions. Is there anything else you want to leave our tribe with knowing about style or fashion as we age and in our professional lives,

Unknown: 34:07

I think always you know you are who you are. Don't buy into anything that's going to make you feel inferior to who you are. You know, there's so much choice out there for women. It's overwhelming, but there is a style out there for you that you're going to feel fabulous with. And it's just, it's sometimes it's trial and error, but, you know, don't, don't buy into, don't buy into those things that we talked about at the start, which is, you should only shop here. You should only do this. You should only do that. Why? You know some amazing women who are into their 80s that still dress and look amazing? No, if you look on social media, there's. Yes, there's plenty of them. And look, you know, if you're frightened of doing anything, go to Pinterest and search for fashion for over 60s. You know, I'm just choosing 60 as an age break. Yeah, right, so, or hairstyles for women over, you know, in their 60s, and you will get bombarded with images and ideas, and you know that, and it's worth starting some sort of lookbook for yourself of things that you, you know might aspire to, to have for yourself. And so surely, you know it'll, it'll come, it'll come to you. Yeah, thanks. That's

Dianne Flemington: 35:39

a great little tip. I also feel like something like that. We're going to an image consultant like yourself. Is that help you in starting the conversation with a new client? If they have hey, here are some things I've collected over some time about my ideas of where I think I want to be. Is that supportive to you?

Unknown: 35:55

It can help, but sometimes they can be going off in a completely different direction. And I had a client just recently who we did a color analysis, and she She's going for transformation. She's in between jobs. And when I presented it to her, she was just completely a guy. She said, but I'd never wear those colors. And I said, Well, that's interesting. Let me talk to you about your hair color. At the moment, you know what you've been doing with the hairdresser, so I asked her to give me talk to her hairdresser and to give me the colors that she was working with in her hair. And I said, can she take out this particular element which will help adjust your hair this way? Because what I'm seeing is you've got quite a warm undertone, and we feel, you know your background, because we look at cultural background as well, and your eye color, etc. What I'm seeing is this, but I'm, I'm I'm open to it. If you that, you know, feel that against it. So she went after the hairdresser. They did the hair color adjustment, she had her hair cut, and I said, I'm happy to do it again for you with your new hair color. Well, I did it again, the same result,

Dianne Flemington: 37:08

and I love your compassionate approach, right? Like you're open, and yes, you get that. This is great, and I think that's a great place to end. I've never been wrong. All right, the go to girl, she's there. We are brilliant. Julie, thank you for this, so I will definitely make sure all the contacts and resources are available for the tribe. We really appreciate your time. You gave lots of valuable tips and tricks, and I'll take some away, and you might even get a special call from me.

Unknown: 37:48

It's, it's one of those topics Dianne that is endless. You know, it's just, you know, how long is a piece of string, as I said, before you can start at one thing, and you just keep on going. And it's really up to you as an individual as to how far you want to go within as Yeah,

Dianne Flemington: 38:06

yeah, you've got an education bit in there too, that I think is super supportive for people, right? That's, I don't know, like people like me, who I'm not. I've never been known as a girly girl, right? So I dressed my environmental office because a videographer said, what a way to add femininity is to, you know, pull in your background. So that's why there's so much pink around me, that kind of thing, or I might wear a pink shirt, but at the core of who I am is very anyway, not to get into me, but it might be totally

Unknown: 38:36

against who you are as an individual. Because when you find out what your true signature colors are they might be forest green. That's really an interesting exercise. Color, as I said, is a whole topic

Dianne Flemington: 38:51

on its own. Yeah, brilliant. All right. Well, we need to know a few things about you and your mindset around your own personal aging. Is that okay? If we asked you some biosy questions, all right, so to, what age are you wanting to live your life? To,

Unknown: 39:08

Oh, good question. You know, my father always said he was going to live, to live with nearly 100 and we were all aghast, we're going to put up with him. But, um, yeah, I'd like to live in, you know, I'd like to get to my 90s. I think hopefully my mind is still healthy and work in good working or whatever. I'd like to think I can get to my 90s maybe, maybe longer, and that my body is still working in a way which allows me to do the things I want to do. Yeah,

Dianne Flemington: 39:37

that's right into my next question. You know, getting into your 90s or even longer, what would that allow you to be do or have

Unknown: 39:45

again? That that really depends on how your body ages, and that is dependent upon what activities you've done in the years prior, right? So for me now, it's all about, um. Um, health, fitness, wellness, maintenance, you know. And so for me, maintenance is things like strength training, which I do on a regular basis. I look after my skin, I get my hair done regularly. I, you know, go and have a massage. If I need to have a massage, I have a fabulous chiropractor. I have a great physio, you know, I do Pilates, I do all the things that help me maintain my strength and agility. I play golf as well, you know, and fitness while I can, because you never know what's going to happen, you know, next week or the week after. So, yeah, now you've really got to look after yourself. As you get older, I would say 60 was the cutoff. You know, as soon as I turned 60, everything's just started. I don't know why.

Dianne Flemington: 40:53

Anyway, try. Julie just spoke into something we talk about a lot, which is creating our healthcare team. And hopefully you heard a few of who is on her healthcare team. And if you haven't already, there's a good lead, a lead way into considering who might be you need to add to your existing healthcare team. So thanks, Julie for that.

Unknown: 41:12

Really welcome and a good doctor. You need a good doctor as well. So, you know, it's, it's, you know, when I, when I left my marriage, I had some good advice to give them to me, and that was to have a good doctor, a good lawyer and a good finance accountant, right? So I've always had those, but now it's extended.

Dianne Flemington: 41:37

As the needs grow, so does our team brilliant? Is there or, let me just ask, what is something that scares you about growing older? Is there anything?

Unknown: 41:47

Oh, look, I think, like anyone, it would be, you know, disease and disease is a big word, but, you know, it can amount to lots of different things. What normally hits a person as they get older, could be arthritis, you know, dementia, Alzheimer's, cancer, you know, all of those horrible things, which, you know, we know people are suffering with out there. So I think it's about being conscious of doing the things you can do to help. It's preventative, you know, and that's really what it's all about, once you get to a certain age. And also, whilst doing all of that you know, looking after yourself in terms of, you know how you feel about the image that you see of yourself in the mirror. I think if you can look in the mirror and like what you see and you're proud of what you see, then that does an awful lot to helping you through everything else. Yeah, brilliant.

Dianne Flemington: 42:45

You already tapped into my next question, which was, you know, how do you manage that fear you spoken to? You have a healthcare team, you have practices and disciplines that you step into and own. Is there anything you want to add to that about how you might manage that fear around growing older?

Unknown: 43:00

Talk to your partner about it, talk to your family about it, you know you'll have someone you can talk to about it. Because if you don't talk to anyone about it, and you harbor it, you know it doesn't it festers. It doesn't make it any easier. I think that's probably the best thing you know. Before my father died. He was in an aged care facility, and I watched him go down and develop dementia as a part of his his, you know, ailment which put him there in the first place, which was a fall, and it was just horrible to watch. So, you know, I promised myself that I would do everything I could do to not put myself in that situation. But as I said, you never know what's going to happen.

Dianne Flemington: 43:45

Do the best you can. Yeah, as much. All right, so who's the coolest person, you know, dead or alive, older person,

Unknown: 43:57

um, oh, look interesting. I you know, my dad was pretty cool. You know, he was a trailblazer in his own industry, in his own right. He was a comic. He was a dedicated dad. He his dress code was not always to see. You know, he was always known for his acuba hat in his jeans, as in later life. And so that was right. But look, if I had to think of someone who stands out like a beacon to me in terms of owning herself, you know, owning her presence, owning her image, she's very decisive. She's a fabulous role model for younger women coming through is Julie Bishop, you know, and I have met Julie. She's an amazing person. And wave, we shared a common compliment to each other. She looked at me and she said, I love your hair. And I looked and I went up your shoes. She.

Dianne Flemington: 45:00

Brilliant. I like those. Those are great. Thank you for your time today. Thank you for sharing your answers and vulnerability. Your dad sounds pretty spectacular, and I hope to see you again on the podcast, maybe before and after with me or something. Who knows? I'm

Unknown: 45:17

sure there'll be questions that are forthwith from all this. If there's anything you know we want more information on, then maybe we can do that.

Dianne Flemington: 45:24

That's fine. Brilliant. Thanks, Julie and thanks tribe for sitting in and having a listen again. Doors are open. Meet Julie online with those site with the links that I provided for you in the podcast transcript transcriptions, or you can find her online and LinkedIn. Thanks, Julie. Take care of your beautiful Film. Bye, for now, bye,